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Mother-Son Emotional Incest - Part 1
Mothers, Sons and Lovers © Martyn Carruthers

Online Coaching for Mother-Son Problems   Soulwork Polska


When Mothers Fixate on Sons

Mothers & Sons 2 ... Peter Pan Grows Up
Mothers & Sons 3 ... Sons and Lovers
Fathers & Daughters ... Daddy's Girls

We work with people who want to improve their relationships but can't seem to do it.
We help them manage their stress and understand their situations.
Do you want healthier and happier relationships?

We help people manage unpleasant emotions and improve relationships.
We also mentor helping professionals who work with fixated and bonded clients.

Martyn Carruthers, Soulwork Founder

I began this summary of mother-son relationships while trying to understand
why many men have similar destructive lifestyles. Some of my lessons were:
1) these destructive habits are mostly unconscious,
2) men bonded to their mothers may not notice that they hurt others,
and 3) many men bonded to their mothers feel too special to change.

If you feel strong emotions as you read this article, maybe talk to healthy friends.
Your relationships with your parents may be the most influential relationships
of your life and can create life-long relationship habits. We help adults
dissolve childhood fixations and develop their emotional maturity.

Some Men Obsess about their Mothers

The first people that we encounter in life are usually our mothers. Most children fixate on their mothers until adolescence and some people remain fixated on their mothers throughout their lives. Although the consequences of such obsessions are commonplace and can be severe, few people seem to recognize these habits or their consequences, and even fewer seek solutions.

Do you cause friends and family to suffer because
you have emotional blocks and you won't get help?

Here's a quick check for mother fixations. (If you are a man - ask some trusted female friends to honestly rate you). If you have five or more YES answers, maybe investigate this issue. Does a man ...

  1. obsess about his mother?
  2. strongly react to criticism?
  3. expect women to serve him?
  4. demand devotion, not only love?
  5. not commit to happy partnership?
  6. damage other people's relationships?
  7. show jealousy, anxiety and insecurity?
  8. act like a child or like a tyrant ... or both?
  9. brag, boast and lie in attempts to be special?
  10. have obsessive interests and few social skills?
  11. expect other people to fulfill his responsibilities?
  12. try to rescue married women from their husbands?
  13. hunt women - quantity not happiness is important?
  14. rarely shows anger - yet attacks or sabotages people?
  15. act impotent, perhaps with penile erection dysfunction?
  16. act like a narcissist - he demands attention or he leaves?
  17. obsess about his daughter or about young, immature women?
  18. do many of these things repeatedly yet energetically denies them?
  19. avoid couple coaching, marriage counseling or relationship therapy?
  20. believe that he knows more than professionals with years of experience?

These signs of covert emotional incest can predict intense suffering for these men,
for the women in their lives and for their children.

THE ONLY WOMAN I TRULY LOVED WAS ANOTHER MAN’S WIFE
... MY MOTHER
  Car bumper sticker seen in Hawaii

If you ask, "Who is to blame?", please remember that many men learned these habits to cope with childhood problems, and that their parents learned similar habits from their grandparents ... and so on. We can help people change these trans-generational habits and inter-generational bonds.

Mother-Son Fixation / Obsession

If parents relate to children in ways that are more appropriate for partners, the consequences can be severe. Many adult children of immature parents carry burdens of emotional incest throughout their lives. And as adults, they may enmesh their own children with passive-aggressive or codependent behavior. We help people change these habits and develop their emotional maturity.

I lived with a mother's boy for 7 years. I left him months ago but I still hurt and I still feel betrayed. I feel like I had a long affair with a married man. I tried to get him to ask you for coaching, but he said that he would fix his own problems, if he had any. Florida, USA

Many parents have good intentions and immature parenting skills. Many parents complain that their partners act like children, or like tyrants, or that their partners are physically or emotionally absent.

Entangled adults often blame their parents, criticize their partners and complain about their children. They rarely recognize that their partners and children are responding to their own emotional immaturity.

My husband was more a child than a man. He avoided decisions and only wanted to play ... I liked his childishness until we had a baby, but he resented our son ... after three bad years I divorced him, but I felt like I abandoned a child. After a few sessions with you my guilt disappeared and I have stopped trying to be his mother. Hawaii, USA

Are you Entangled with a Man who is Entangled with his Mother?

Cross-generational bonds, obsessions and fixations, such as between mothers and sons, or fathers and daughters seem more likely when parents cannot enjoy being parents. Were your parents:

  • unhappy - but stayed together anyway?
  • missing, chronically ill, dysfunctional or dead?
  • victimized or controlled by other family members?
  • addicts, depressed or had strong mental health problems?
  • irresponsible, immature or unable to provide mature guidance?

Since my son moved in with his father, I feel terribly lonely, depressed ... and betrayed.
I see him every few weeks and although he knows that I am sad without him, he won't come home. My husband says that I need my son more than he needs me.
Scotland, UK

I described solutions for some problems of toxic parenting in Prevent Learning Disabilities and Parental Alienation. Emotional incest between fathers and daughters is also common - see Daddy's Little Princess. For more on how to untangle complex family enmeshments see Emotional Incest.

Little Prince "Triangles"

In a strange and faraway country, many boys believe that their mothers are virgins,
and many mothers believe that their first son is God.

Our story begins with a pregnant mother. While pregnant, mother likely enjoyed her femininity and the attention of her family. But when a baby is born, family attention often shifts from mother to baby. This mother felt ignored, and suffered postpartum depression. She regained her family's attention, approval and respect by trying to become a Super-Mom to her son.

My boyfriend was a 42 year old child. All I heard was he didn't want to disappoint his mother.
He never did chores around the house - he was just there. He phoned his mother all the time. He phoned her when he left, when he arrived and in between. He wouldn't make commitments and he got upset if I talked to him like to an adult.
North Carolina, USA

The husband of a Super-Mom may feel rejected, especially if he depends on his wife to provide meaning for his life. He may feel that a boy baby is a rival. He may withdraw from his wife’s need for intimacy, support or responsibility. He may become depressed and/or have sexual or intimate affairs.

Your Little Prince describes my ex-husband. You could add passive-aggressive to the profile, also stubbornness and denial. I will avoid mother's boys in the future. London, UK

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A Super-Mom may see her son as special. She may encourage her son to make special contributions to the world that she cannot or will not make; or she may cling to him and threaten horrible things if he stops being her private property. For such a Mom to feel special, her son must be very special - or the son risks losing his Mother's love.

Soon after I gave birth to my son, I realized that my life purpose
is to prepare him for his great destiny.

Mother may dedicate her life to her son. Such sacrifice is expected in many cultures - the family may applaud her spirituality, and the son may call his mother a saint. The son may defend his mother and attack anybody who does not recognize his mother's special holiness ... especially his father.

My husband accepts his mother's beliefs, no matter how illogical, as facts.
He rejects any evidence to the contrary with anger and aggression.
Singapore

A son bonded to his mother may form a codependent couples. If one of them finds independent happiness ... or another partner ... the other will experience immediate crisis. Codependent mother-son couples often remain emotionally retarded as their bodies grow older - especially if they live together. Neither may make decisions independent of the other.

My ex-boyfriend husbands his mother. He never married and had few relationships. He still
lives with his mom and has not worked for 15 yrs. He is passive aggressive and a recluse. 
He would not contact you. I left him for my sanity. You helped me get over him.
USA

Freud, Oedipus and the Little Prince

If a lonely mother sees her son as special, she may reward her son with special treatment, and her son rewards her by acting special. Instead of enjoying childhood, a boy may develop adult obsessions and sexual fantasies; perhaps fuelling his father’s fear that, "My son is my rival". If a son becomes his mother's partner emotionally, he may be unable to commit himself to another woman in partnership. Without help, he may remain a Mother's Boy until he - or his mother - dies.

Freud wrote that every boy has an Oedipus Complex - that every boy represses his sexual desire for his mother and his jealousy toward his father and experiences emotional conflicts. This may be Freud's autobiography, or a facet of Central European culture at Freud's time. We only find these conflicts in men from families where mothers were confused between Sons and Lovers.

Consequences of Mother - Son Triangulation

A boy who dreads his mothers' rejection may try to be more special. If other people do not perceive his specialness, he may attack (become a compulsive bully) or withdraw (become an obsessive nerd). He may become a passive good boy to please his mother, or he may rebel against his mother to please his father - perhaps becoming aggressive or delinquent. If he swings between these extremes - he may be labeled passive-aggressive - or possibly diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

The feeling that they are more important to mother than father makes them feel that they are wonderful, and since they are already grown up and need not do anything to establish their greatness because - and as long as - mother loves them ... Erich Fromm

Many men complain to us that they were not properly mothered. They may complain that they were not loved in the right way, or not long enough, or that their mothers were absent or preoccupied. Such men often act like teenagers with adult bodies.

If a mother-bonded man feels rejected by a woman - any woman - that man may freak out and behave like an out-of-control child, perhaps reliving some childhood trauma about abandonment or rejection.

My wife's therapist suggested that I read your article ... my mother always preferred my older brother ... my wife is the wonderful mother I never had ... so nothing is wrong ... we have a perfect marriage ... she should not be depressed.  Paris, France

The consequences of emotional incest include addictions, obsessions and suicide. The consequences also include intellectual men who cannot maintain a happy partnership, and spiritual men who reject partnership - often searching for (sacred) fatherhood - or oblivion. The consequences include the burned-out shells of boys who gave up - boys who lost themselves in mediocrity, cults or drugs.

You offered to help me change what you called emotional incest ... but I like my lifestyle and who I am. Normal people are boring ... I am different ... I like being special! Seattle, USA

The more a mother needs a special child-man - the less space for a real boy. During adolescence, as healthy young men prepare for partnership and parenthood, a Little Prince may be unable to consider a committed adult relationship. (Mother-fixated sons are often very intelligent, but their emotional maturity may be delayed - sometimes by decades).

I tried to love him - I really did - but he didn't know what to do with my love - and he didn't
want to learn. His heart and mind were always with his mother.
Vancouver, Canada

We help people change their emotional bonds and relationship habits.

What Happens to a Super-Mother?

  1. She may be called a saint by her son - venerated for her sacrifice. (Even after her death her son may remain fixated on her, never enjoying emotional freedom.)
  2. She may be called a demon by her son's wife - distrusted for her behavior, depressions, mood swings and possibly suicide threats.
  3. If her bonded son finds a partner, a Super-Mom may suffer a crisis of rejection and may overtly or covertly try to sabotage his partnership.
  4. If her bonded son leaves home, a Super-Mom may adopt a younger man (perhaps as a protégé or as a lover).
  5. (If a Super-Mom becomes healthy and corrects her behavior, her adult son may experience a crisis - blaming her for rejecting and abandoning him.)

We help people dissolve toxic entanglements and bonds, gain independent happiness and enjoy an independent sense of life.

We do not try to change immature adults who do not want to grow up. We cannot persuade people
to become responsible, although we may point out the consequences to themselves and to their families. When they have suffered enough ... we are here.

Sincere thanks ... I found validation and understanding for my and my husband's roles in our marital problems. My husband is aggressive when he cannot avoid responsibility. I recently had health problems and asked my husband for help. MAJOR fighting began. My husband cannot accept any role for me that is NOT Mother - he martyrs himself as my abused son ... You offer me hope that I can again live, and love and laugh. THANK YOU. Georgia, USA

Next ... A Little Prince Grows Up

Online Coaching for Emotional Incest

Plagiarism is theft. Copyright © Martyn Carruthers, 1998-2012 All rights reserved.


 

 
 

 

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1. Where are you now? Assess fixations, bonds and enmeshments Systems 1
2. What do you want?  Define life goals ... and blocks to success Systems 2
3. Do you have a plan?  Use conscious and unconscious resources Systems 3
4. Do your emotions limit you?  Dissolve abuse, trauma and mentor damage Systems 4
5. Do your beliefs block you? Change limiting beliefs and end dependence Systems 5
6. Do you feel empty? Resolve identity loss to recover lost qualities Systems 6
7. Is your partner happy? Build healthy partnership (or separate peacefully) Systems 7
8. Are your children happy? Parents can resolve family problems Systems 8
9. Do you want team success? Develop team leaders and top teams together Systems 9
10. Do you want community? Coach community leaders and communities Systems 10
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Plagiarism is theft. Copyright © Martyn Carruthers 1996-2012 All rights reserved. Soulwork Systemic Coaching was primarily developed by Martyn Carruthers
to help people dissolve emotional blocks, improve relationships and achieve goals. These concepts and strategies are for general knowledge only. Consult a physician about medical conditions and before changing medical treatment. Don't steal intellectual property ... ask for permission to post, publish or teach this work.