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Solutions for Overwhelming Emotions
Identification & Identity Loss © Martyn Carruthers

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We offer coaching and training on systemic psychology, family constellations,
resolving identity issues and changing deep limiting beliefs.

Identification is normal human behavior. People often identify with their occupations, with their clothes, cars and country. They may identify with family members, friends or football teams. They may identify with their beliefs, with their emotions and with diagnostic labels. Identifications are associated with strong emotions ... many people live and die defending their identifications.

I'm very sad and I have sad beliefs ... that is all I know about myself ... it's like I'm not me, but I'm scared that I might not like who I really am. Vancouver, Canada

Identification & Identity Loss

Temporary identification is a common, everyday human experience. You imagine what other people might feel and how they may act. It's normal. (Some people do this habitually; they feel well if someone describes a joyful occasion, and feel bad if someone describes an accident or disease.)

The mechanism responsible for the acquisition of emotional responses that resemble those of someone else is identification. Identification is a learning process by means of which one person models himself, herself after another.
S.Jourard & T.Landsman, Healthy Personality, ISBN 0-02-361390-4, p 135

You can identify with almost anybody or anything, although the duration and emotional intensity may vary. At a cinema, if you identify with an actor or actress, you may feel strong emotions during a movie. If you identify with an organization, you may forget or hide your values to conform with the organization.

My husband bought his first new car - and he was so proud of it. But when he found the first scratch, he put his hand on his stomach and groaned like someone had punched him. Then I knew what you meant by identification! Frankfurt, Germany

It seems that the extent to which you identify with whatever is not-you, is the extent to which you lose access to your own identity. We call this identity loss ... if you identify with a family member as a child, you may remain identified with that person for years ... or for a lifetime ... unconsciously expressing emotions, beliefs and behaviors that would be more appropriate for your role model.

Chronic Identification

Instilling chronic identification is sometimes called brainwashing. Students are expected to identify with their school sport teams. Residents are expected to identify with their communities and immigrants are expected to identify with a new country's values. Cults, religions and military organizations may create conditions which provoke psychotic identification - even to previously despised beliefs and values.

If you are identified, you may feel something or somebody inside or near you that
influences your behavior. You may feel a sense of guidance ... or paranoia.

Extreme identification might be called spirit possession, in which the role model is perceived as an esoteric entity or spiritual presence. Sometimes, people with exaggerated cases of what we may call false identification (a form of identity loss) appear to be labeled as having schizophrenia, multiple personalities or bipolar disorder, and may be medicated with psychoactive drugs.

While in the psychoanalytic literature there is agreement that the core meaning of identification is "to be like or to become like another'" it has also been judged '"the most perplexing clinical/theoretical area" in psychoanalysis'. Wikipedia

People who have chronically identified with someone else often seem to live in an endless trance, with little contact with their own emotions, beliefs and thoughts. Their core identity seems to be lost or hidden, and they may act in ways that are more appropriate for their (unconscious) role models.

Although identified people may be unable to explain their behavior, and although they may offer strange justifications for their decisions, identified behavior is rather predictable. Most of their emotions and beliefs (concerning identification with another person) appear to be triggered by specific events. We help people assess their identification and then regain their own (original) sense of identity.

I lost myself many years ago ... I joined the army and became an obedient zombie. I always knew there was more to me ... you helped me find the real me ... small, childish and scared ... but ME. Finally I can learn to know myself! Leeds, England

It seems that most chronic identifications are with family members - especially family members who died prematurely (e.g. following abortion or suicide) or family members who were perceived as victims. We perceive both existential or chronic identification as forms of identity loss. Other forms of identity loss include what we call Lost Identity (dissociation) and Identity Conflict (chronic conflict).

Do you want to explore and regain your natural or true identity?
We have many ways to help people dis-identify with their role models.

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Advantages of Identity Loss

The common types of identification show up as chronic anger, chronic sadness, chronic anxiety or chronic conflict. Each type has characteristic behavioral, verbal and non-verbal signals. Identity loss seems to follow systemic rules.

People who identify with victims may be generally suspicious. People who have identified with dead persons are often melancholic and may be obsessed with death. A hero identified person may be fearful and anxious about any change. Sometimes these basic identifications are mixed - for example, a sibling of an aborted child may show signs of "identification with a dead victim".

I get angry if I see injustice - it's like a demon possesses me - it takes me over - and then I can break things ... or people. I lose control. That's not very good for a policeman ... I have put my life in the service of justice. Kailua, Hawaii

What we call Lost Identity and Identity Conflict are also identity issues. Lost Identity refers to chronic dissociated behavior (picture a math professor pondering a complex equation) and Identity Conflict refers to chronic bi-polar behavior swings (think of classic descriptions of "split personality).

I realized that because my father was so weak, I tried to be my own tough father ... weird ... you helped me find myself ... and you helped him / me grow up. It sounds ridiculous ... but now I am ME! Adelaide, Australia

Who Suffers Identification?

People who are identified are often easy to recognize. The lights are on - but who is home? People who have identified with someone may show strong emotional reactions, but become trance-like if asked "What do you really want?" We coach people to explore who identified with whom and why; and to find effective solutions.

After a while, identification becomes quite easy to recognize ... many identified people:

  • Cannot specify timed goals
  • May avoid finishing tasks or projects
  • May offer endless justifications and excuses
  • Are often depressed - their lives do not make sense
  • May express strong, inappropriate anger, sadness or anxiety
  • May seek endless distractions (may be obsessive/compulsive about trivia)
  • May only describe what is important or what makes sense by quoting other people

Dissolve Identification

The resolution of identification and identity loss usually includes finding and integrating a lost or hidden part of self. We help people resolve identifications and identity loss, and other consequences of emotional stress, abuse or trauma. We help people find and integrate their lost or hidden selves.

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Emotional First Aid for Overwhelming Feelings

Seek ways to be calm. Breathe deeply and walk
Remind yourself that strong emotions may not be yours
Consider whose emotions you may be carrying ... and why ...

We help people find solutions for emotional and relationship problems.

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1. Where are you now? Assess fixations, bonds and enmeshments Systems 1
2. What do you want?  Define life goals ... and blocks to success Systems 2
3. Do you have a plan?  Use conscious and unconscious resources Systems 3
4. Do your emotions limit you?  Dissolve abuse, trauma and mentor damage Systems 4
5. Do your beliefs block you? Change limiting beliefs and end dependence Systems 5
6. Do you feel empty? Resolve identity loss to recover lost qualities Systems 6
7. Is your partner happy? Build healthy partnership (or separate peacefully) Systems 7
8. Are your children happy? Parents can resolve family problems Systems 8
9. Do you want team success? Develop team leaders and top teams together Systems 9
10. Do you want community? Coach community leaders and communities Systems 10
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Plagiarism is theft. Copyright © Martyn Carruthers 1996-2011 All rights reserved. Soulwork Systemic Coaching was primarily developed by Martyn Carruthers
to help people dissolve emotional blocks, improve relationships and achieve goals. These concepts and strategies are for general knowledge only. Consult a physician about medical conditions and before changing medical treatment. Don't steal intellectual property ... ask for permission to post, publish or teach this work.