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Solutions for Systemic Identification
Help for Overwhelming Emotions © Martyn Carruthers

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We offer coaching and training on systemic coaching, family constellations,
resolving identity issues and toxic relationship bonds.

Identification is normal human behavior. People often identify with their occupations, with their clothes and with their country. They may identify with family members, friends or football teams. They may identify with their beliefs, with their emotions and with diagnostic labels. Identifications are associated with strong or overwhelming emotions ... many people live and die defending their identifications.

I'm very sad and I have sad beliefs ... but that is all I really know about myself ... it's not me, but I'm scared that might not like who I really am. Vancouver, Canada

Identification & Identity Loss

Temporary identification is a common, everyday human experience. You imagine what other people  might feel and how they may act. It's normal. (Some therapists do this habitually; some feel well if someone describes a joyful occasion, and feel ill if someone describes an accident or disease.)

The mechanism responsible for the acquisition of emotional responses that resemble those of someone else is identification. Identification is a learning process by means of which one person models himself, herself after another.
S.Jourard & T.Landsman, Healthy Personality, ISBN 0-02-361390-4, p 135

You can identify with almost anybody or anything, although the duration and emotional intensity may vary. At a cinema, if you identify with an actor or actress, you may feel strong emotions during a movie. If you identify with an organization, you may forget or hide your values to conform with the organization.

My husband bought his first brand new car - and he was so proud of it. But when he found the first scratch, he put his hand on his stomach and groaned like someone had punched him. Then I knew what you meant by identification! Frankfurt, Germany

It seems that the extent to which you identify with whatever is not-you, is the extent to which you lose access to your own identity. We call this identity loss ... if you identify with a family member as a child, you may remain identified with that person for years ... or for a lifetime ... unconsciously expressing emotions, beliefs and behaviors that would be more appropriate for your role model.

Chronic Identification

Instilling chronic identification is sometimes called brainwashing. Students are expected to identify with their school sport teams. Residents are expected to identify with their communities and immigrants are expected to identify with a new country's values. Cults, religions and military organizations may create conditions which provoke psychotic identification - even to previously despised beliefs and values.

If you are identified, you may feel something or somebody inside or near you that somehow influences your behavior. You may feel a sense of guidance ... or paranoia.

Extreme identification is sometimes called spirit possession, in which the role model is perceived as an esoteric entity or spirit presence. Sometimes, people with exaggerated cases of what we call identification are labeled as having schizophrenia, or multiple personalities, or bipolar, and are medicated with psychoactive drugs.

People who are chronically identified seem to live in an endless trance, with little contact with their own emotions, beliefs and thoughts. Their core identity may be lost or hidden, and they may act in ways that are more appropriate for their (unconscious) role models. Although they may be unable to explain their behavior, and although they may offer peculiar justifications, identified behavior is rather predictable.

Most emotions and beliefs concerning identification with another person are triggered in specific contexts of life. We use this to help people regain their own (original) sense of identity.

I lost myself years ago ... I joined the army and became an obedient zombie. I always knew there was more to me ... you helped me find the real me ... small, childish and scared ... but definitely ME. Finally I can learn to know myself! Leeds, England

Most chronic identifications are with family members - especially those who died prematurely (especially following abortion or suicide) or members who were perceived as victims.

Existential or chronic identification is a form of identity loss. Other common forms of identity loss are Lost Identity and Identity Conflict. Systemic coaching offers you ways to regain your natural identity.

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Advantages of Identity Loss

The common types of identification show up as chronic anger, chronic sadness, chronic anxiety or chronic conflict. Each type has characteristic behavioral, verbal and non-verbal signals. Identity loss seems to follow systemic rules.

People who identified with victims may be generally suspicious. A person who has identified with a dead person is often melancholic and may be obsessed with death. A hero identified person is generally fearful and anxious about any change. Sometimes these basic identifications are mixed - for example, a sibling of an aborted child may show signs of "identification with a dead victim".

I get angry if I see injustice - it's like a demon possesses me - just takes me over - and then I can break things ... or people. I lose control. That's not very good for a policeman ... I have put my life in the service of justice. Kona, Hawaii

What we call Lost Identity and Identity Conflict are also identity issues. Lost Identity refers to chronic dissociated behavior (picture a math professor pondering a complex equation) and Identity Conflict refers to chronic bi-polar behavior swings (think of classic descriptions of "split personality).

I realized that because my father was so weak, I tried to be my own tough father ... weird ... you helped me find myself ... and you helped him / me grow up. It sounds so ridiculous ... but now I am ME! Adelaide, Australia

Who Suffers Identification?

People who are identified are often easy to recognize. The lights are on - but who is home? People who have identified with someone may show strong emotional reactions, but become trance-like if asked "What do you really want?" We coach motivated adults to explore who identified with whom and why; and to find effective solutions.

Many identified people:

  • Cannot specify timed goals
  • May avoid finishing tasks or projects
  • May offer endless justifications and excuses
  • Are often depressed - their lives do not make sense
  • May express strong, inappropriate anger, sadness or anxiety
  • May seek endless distractions (may be obsessive/compulsive about trivia)
  • May only describe what is important or what makes sense by quoting other people

Dissolve Identification

The resolution of identification and identity loss usually includes finding and integrating a lost or hidden self. We help people resolve identification and identity loss, and other persisting consequences of emotional stress, abuse or trauma. We can help people find and integrate their lost or hidden selves.

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Emotional First Aid for Overwhelming Feelings

Breathe deeply and walk
Avoid acting out strong emotions until you are calm
Remind yourself that strong emotions may not be yours
Consider whose emotions you may be carrying ... and why

We help people find solutions for emotional and relationship problems.

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1. Where are you now? Assess relationship bonds and entanglements Systems 1
2. What are your life goals?  Identify your life goals ... and what blocks you Systems 2
3. How to reach your goals?  Use your conscious and unconscious resources Systems 3
4. What stops you?  Dissolve abuse and trauma to rebuild motivation Systems 4
5. What else stops you? Change your limiting beliefs to end dependence Systems 5
6. What else stops you? Resolve identity loss to recover qualities and skills Systems 6
7. What else stops you? Heal mentor damage and find quality mentorship Systems 7
8. What about your partnership? Build happy partnership (or separate peacefully) Systems 8
9. What about your children? We coach parents to resolve family problems Systems 9
10. What about your success? We coach team leaders and teams ... together Systems 10
11. What about your community? We coach community leaders and communities Systems 11
12. What about complex goals? Specialty coaching & training for unusual goals Specialty

Plagiarism is theft. Copyright © Martyn Carruthers 1996-2010 All rights reserved. Soulwork Systemic Coaching was primarily developed by Martyn Carruthers. We help people define and achieve goals, resolve emotional blocks and improve relationships. This information is for general knowledge only. Consult a physician about medical conditions and before changing any medical treatment. Don't steal ... ask Martyn for permission to post or publish his work.